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Why I chose Ko-Fi to replace Patreon — 13 Comments

  1. I left this idea over at Ko-Fi, but I’ll put it here as well since there’s a great conversation happening here already. 🙂
    I got this idea from your photo of your work space. I have this weird fascination with artist lofts and all the places where creative work is done.
    I thought about how many of your supporters are creatives themselves: writers, artists, musicians, gardeners, seamstresses, designers … and how in most cases creating is a lonely pursuit. We work in isolation, and especially in the early stages we don’t have much to share that can indicate progress. Other creatives understand this. The rest of the world, not so much.

    What if we could share these bits of our progress, on a regular schedule as you share yours? In a sort of artist’s community?

    More specifically, would there be a way we could each contribute a small image of whatever our work in progress happens to be, along with an image of your own progress, so we could all see where we are at? Then, if we wanted we could collect all these images into one big collage featuring everyone’s little bit- our collective creative journey. You might provide a theme idea for the month, for example what your workspace looks like, or your favorite writing instrument, or favorite accompanying beverage.

    To avoid copyright issues, and to remove any pressure, all this stuff would be in a private setting, just for your supporters, so that not only would we be supporting you and each other but you could support us in our endeavors, whatever they might be, as well.

    Your part in this would be to provide the place to upload our images, and then at the end of the month assemble the images (one per patron) into the collage alongside an image of your own progress. (I can help with that! Maybe something along the lines of the pending Holly’s Writing Classes front page.) The final collage could then be linked digitally and people could print it out from there if they like.

    I’m not sure about the execution and structure as this is still a really rough idea, but I think it would be fun, and something I would be happy to support and be involved with. Feel free to use any part of this idea or adapt it into something that works better for you.

  2. Another idea. I follow a personal videos of a romance writer named Hilde McQueen because she’s so much fun to listen to, regardless I don’t write romance. She shares her writing schedules, her planning techniques, her writing space, the calendars and planners and journals she uses, anything surrounding the way she writes and creates. You might consider doing the same, fashioned on your own ways.

    I also remember you mentioning once that you love office products, notebooks, pens Etc. so you could blog about the toys that you use and find that help you write, that sort of thing. Because I’ve yet to find a writer who also doesn’t love not just the used to write, but also the ‘primitive’ analog equipment used to write or outline or create.

    I like the idea of sharing your writers space with us, or the antics of your cat, or just sit and talk to us. Because one thing I’ve noticed about your podcast with Becca is how interesting you are to listen to, when you’re talking about anything.

    Something else you might consider, is talking about how you created a dystopian World, Aura settle space world, or how you happened to start using Minecraft to build parts of your world, or how characters in your novels have given you fits… things readers as well as writers would like to just settle in and listen to you tell about.

  3. Opportunity to purchase Holly-writer related stuff on CafePress and the European equivalent of CafePress, with Holly quotes. Like mugs and t-shirts and mouse pads.

    You’d only have to design it once, and you wouldn’t have to ship it, it would mean more revenue for you, and it’s not a members-only perc but hey… It came to mind. Maybe offer a new product discount to those who support you. Then up the price after a certain time.

    I’m a graphic designer as well as a writer, and would donate my time for free to design your stuff. I’m sure you have other readers who are also designers who would do the same. Heck, you can release notebooks and memo pads, Etc.

    Can start the Holly Lisle memorabilia series. Feature artwork from your covers. I don’t even think George RR Martin has done this. Yet.

    If you don’t want to go to the CafePress route, you could do journals on Amazon instead. Writers journals. One journal for every project. Using the Holly Lisle technique.

  4. I really like all of the ideas Johanna had. Especially having sponsors’ names listed in the acknowledgments. For people who aren’t sponsoring large amounts each month, I could definitely understand how signed copies/prints could get expensive, but it would be really cool if sponsors had the opportunity to buy signed version (perhaps with an exclusive stamp or something?) for the price of an unsigned copy.

    I don’t know to what degree this would conflict with sharing published or unpublished work, but something like Cassandra Clare’s “snippets” would be really cool (Usually just a sentence to a couple of paragraphs of something that may or may not end up in the final book, but piques interest in readers).

    • Having sponsors listed in the Acks is a given. It was the baseline I had on Patreon, and I definitely want to continue that with that.

      As for snippets I do some of that here. Could move it THERE, I suppose…

      • Oh, that reminds me of something cool that Cassandra Clare does that I forgot about. Sometimes, she posts scenes on her website that are from an already published story but from a DIFFERENT character’s POV. Obviously that doesn’t help with promotion, but it is a really neat little extra that I enjoy as a fan. She usually does this with her most romantic/sexy scenes, but I think it could work for other types of scenes, too. It’s fun for getting a look inside the head of a secondary character who might be really popular among readers but usually isn’t the POV person in the published work.

  5. Voting on book covers is fun. Getting a minor minor character named after you could be fun, or maybe just have your name put in the acknowledgements. A signed paperback copy of the book would be cool, or maybe just a signed print of the cover. An invitation to a private stream where people can ask you questions about what you’re writing, or maybe watch a cute little video of your desk/office.

    I always find it kinda neat to see WHERE people do their work. Especially since you have lots of index cards and notebooks and diagrams and other colorful things to get a glimpse of (without spoilers, of course). I also think it could be fun to read your reviews of books you’ve read recently, or games you’ve played, or movies/TV you’ve watched. You have interesting perspectives on story-telling, and I’ve always enjoyed reading what you have to say about other people’s work.

    I don’t know if you want tiered stuff? Like the way people do Kickstarter rewards? But maybe someone could be a guest on your podcast or something. I have no idea what they would say, lol, but maybe if they happen to be an aspiring writer themselves, they’d want to ask you and your daughter questions.

    Hope that’s helpful! Good luck!

    • I like the idea of a private stream. I like talking to people, and I actually have a pretty nice piece of software that would let me do that with small groups of folks at a time.

      • Yeah, I think the exclusivity part of it could be really fun for people. I know that Taylor Swift sometimes hosts very small, intimate gatherings with her biggest fans, and let’s them hear songs from her upcoming album before it’s released.

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