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  1. I’ve read your reports with great interest, Holly. I’ve done fasts before, I think 3-6 days longest. I decided to do the ‘eat only during 8 hours a day.’ Limited carbs, otherwise whatever protein food appeals, veggies, some fruit. NO commercial sweets, which I no longer care for most anyway, but I was making homemade before. I discovered if I don’t eat sweets I don’t really get hungry enough to tempt me to eat during non-eating hours. Even too much really sweet fruit will trigger hunger, I suppose by causing the pancreas to release a lot of insulin. Fortunately I’m not diabetic which I know is a can of worms. My husband was and it’s been rampant in my family, both parents, grandparents on mother’s side, cousins.
    I must be losing fat, my abdomen is getting flatter and clothes loose. Scale is slower to show loss, but it will, I’m sure. The best part is my blood pressure began dropping almost immediately! I’ve been on BP meds for some years now and I hate to swallow pills. It’s down to what used to be considered normal! I hope by the time I have my next checkup in December my doc will decrease or eliminate the pills. If it drops well below normal before then I’ll decrease myself. Have done before because I hate pills but, alas, BP rose.
    Thanks for encouraging us with your story.

  2. It is very encouraging to read about what you’re with your weight and others, too. I’m working on training my body with intermittent fasting. I’m doing 20/4 right now, and about 95% paleo. I have found if I make a point of drinking a quart and a half in the early afternoon, the fasting seems a lot easier. My favorite drink is green/peppermint tea with a little stevia in it. That so hits the spot on a hot day. My feet and ankles aren’t swelling up much at all anymore as the day goes by. I decided I’d only weigh once a month so as not to obsess over it. So far I’ve dropped over 20 pounds. And it seemed way easier than any diet I’ve ever done. Had a couple of family gatherings along the way. I ate what I wanted. And went right back to IF the next day. No guilt. I’ve read Fungs book now. It was well worth the money. Before the summer is over I want to do a longer fast. Thanks again for sharing

  3. Holly, Thanks to you I got started on a Keto diet plan. It has been over a month now and I think my body has finally adapted. I drink half my body weight in water every day. I bought trace minerals to put in it because my energy was low. I’m looking forward to the mental clarity and increased energy promised by switching from burning glucose to fat. However, it hasn’t happened yet. Maybe it takes longer than 5 weeks for one’s body to adjust. I swim three times a week and have maintain a 10,000 step average. I’m 80. I’m wondering if my age is a factor in not getting the increased sense of energy. I only have 10 pounds to lose and I have lost a couple. Your posts have motivated me to make this life change. Thanks. Q

  4. I wonder if the library has a copy of this … Or the second hand book store. I’m sort of intermittently accidentally doing the intermittent fasting thing … sort of. Mostly just because I’ve never been a three meals a day person. (You want me to eat when? I’m not awake at that hour if I can help it. And I’m certainly not hungry.) So, it’s been a constant point of irritation with my dr. since I was diagnosed with type 2 a looooong time ago. I really appreciate your posts on your success with this and I always knew that cutting protein/fat combinations was a bad idea for me. I’m an un-apologetic omnivore. Looking forward to your posts … all of them.

  5. Interesting conversation.

    I became very diabetic 3 years ago. I was fine then one day, I felt very sick, as if some flipped a switch. I couldn’t eat anything, nothing tasted correctly, and was drinking gallons of water. Not counting being in the bathroom 30 plus times a day. I already new what it was since diabetes runs in my family. No medical coverage (Obamacare for me was almost $500 a month for $10,000 deductible. And it took me 3 months to find a doctor that would accept a new patient!

    I finally saw a doctor and my initial A1C was over 16. I was a year form medicare and had to pay out of pocket for my insulin for a couple of months while waiting for acceptance to a program to supply my insulin at $35 a month. That stuff is EXPENSIVE! 3 years ago, $360 for a little vial. Today $560 out of pocket! Once the insulin was used, my A1C dropped from over 16 to 5.0. The recommended diet for diabetes, is high protein, low carb.

    Just before being hit with diabetes, I was 265 pounds and 44 inch waist. Now I am done to 228 and 40 inch waist. I never was one for sweets and sugar, but did drink a lot of Dr. Pepper. I still drink some diet pop (soda) and rarely use any other sweetener. I drink coffee and tea black and always have.

    I also developed something called G.A.V.E. A lot worse than ulcers. (By the way, from what I understand, ulcers are almost always caused by bacteria destroying the stomach lining, not the gastronomic fluids in the stomach.) So I also had to stop taking aspirin and ibuprofen.

    I eat lunch and dinner only, and a lot of walking and some bicycling. I see my doctor every 90 days to monitor my A1C, and to watch for any and all possible side effects from diabetes such nephropathy which has already started in my feet.

    The fasting routine sounds very interesting, but I would think trying that would push me into extreme hypoglycemia.

    I guess that if your treatment works for you, and you can get healthy and stay healthy, it is all good. And be under supervision of a good doctor helps.

  6. Holly, I must admit, your success has me considering this fasting thing. I’m already in decent shape. I’m 52. About 2 years ago I was 69 pounds heavier and in a bad personal situation. I removed myself from the personal situation and became determined to get healthy again since I was now 50. At 20 or even 30, heck, even 40…I never worried about my health. At 50…it suddenly became real. Anyway, this isn’t meant to be a story of how I lost weight…all of this to say, I am very conscious about my health. Health fine now, but this fasting thing would help the food budget and buy me a little more writing time each day:) And if it further improved my health and health risks, all the better.

    My one concern: I currently jog between 15 and 25 miles per week. So I am concerned that the fasting would not provide me enough fuel to continue running. Does the book address anything related to exercising and possible adjustments for that? On the flip side, I could also take the chance that fasting would eliminate the need to run to stay healthy, but my family has a lengthy history of “blood issues” (high blood pressure, heart attacks, clogged arteries), so I do like to exercise to keep the blood pumping rapidly from time to time.

    Anyway, would love to hear if the book addresses that at all. Giving this serious thought.

    • Yes, actually. It points out that glucose/glycogen supplies are small, and that at the point where you switch over to burning ketones for fuel, you don’t run out.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVfkvsFA1q0

      Start at about the 6:30 minute mark.

      Gabriela burned through her glycogen stores, and her body couldn’t switch to ketones. (They mention this in the video).

      Turns out carb loading makes athletes perform worse, and running on ketones gives you energy that doesn’t run out until you burn through all your fat.

  7. I’ve been reading about your experience with fasting. Right now, I’m also eating one meal a day. I’m following Dr. Fung’s advice for insulin resistance, but not worrying about autophagy. One thing at a time. Right now, my glucose levels are my biggest concern. So, I do drink some BPC and bone broth during my fasting time. I’m getting good results with both glucose levels going down (so far about 30 mg/dl) and losing some weight. Weight loss for me is very slow, which is common for post menopausal women. My jeans are much looser in the waist.

    I’m not currently planning any extended fasts. Creating recipes is one of my hobbies and I love making exceptional food. Nowadays, it’s exceptional keto food. The interesting thing is that it’s the creating and cooking that matters. I’m fine with not eating. I’m not fine with not cooking.

    I’m trying to convince my doctor to do some more extensive reading on keto and IF because he’s aware of them but doesn’t really know much about the details. It seems to me that without learning more, it’s hard for him to be effective for a patient who is doing both keto and IF.

  8. Holly, I read Big Fat Surprise last year. Excellent book!

    Another one you might enjoy is The Dorito Effect. It’s not about HF/LC or fasting, but it is about what’s systemically wrong with our food supply and what can be done about it. Very informative and also quite entertaining.

  9. Four day fasts are a very bad idea. You must eat something, anything for your stomach acids to work on. I know what I’m talking about. I’ve never been hungry in my life. I don’t know whether that’s a curse or blessing. Eating nothing for a week, for me, is a piece of cake. But it’s a bad idea. My doctor has refused to see me anymore.
    Eat something or wind up with ulcers, just like me – or worse.

    • The longest recorded water fast was 385 days. The guy who did it with nothing but water, a multivitamin a day, and a doctor’s supervision, went from 380 lbs to 180 lbs, and had no health problems during.

      There are currently tens of thousands of people doing what I’m doing, and there is no correlation between fasting and stomach ulcers.

      Four-day fasts are a training step to the ten-day fasts that I’ll be doing twice a year to give autophagy a chance to clear out broken proteins in the brain, cancer cells in the tongue, and other things that require the body’s built-in recycler to kick in.

      Ulcers are not a result of fasting, nor a side effect of fasting.

      If you have ulcers, that’s a separate medical problem that needs separate attention, and a doctor who’s worth a shit.

      A doctor that refuses to see you? As a nurse, I heard the term “patient abandonment” flung around a bit, and while personally I wouldn’t waste my time on a doctor who dumped ME if I had ulcers, if he’s the only one in your area, you might want to run the phrase past your lawyer.

      Meanwhile, I would suggest that you get the ulcers looked at. Again, they have no relationship to fasting, and they are a sign of something significantly wrong.

  10. An important warning! My sister went on a road trip and wanted as few stops as possible, so she drank very little the whole way. When she got home a few days later, she was so sick she nearly wound up in the hospital with sepsis.

    I didn’t know you could get sepsis from dehydration!

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