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The Fung Fasting Report #2: Four-Day Water Fast — 9 Comments

  1. Holly – I’m curious about your decision not to take MCT Oil.

    Can you elaborate on what your and your partners take on this was?

    I have been taking Bulletproof Coffee every day with MCT8 Oil and Butter, and I do find it helps with mental clarity and enhances Keto by keeping you in Ketosis, but makes you feel fuller for the day (if you are otherwise skipping any other breakfast and lunch and are going straight through to dinner)

    Is it just the calories you have an issue with?

    • I have three reasons.

      First, the good MCT oil is ridiculously expensive, while the crappy MCT oil is so horrible the cat won’t lick it off my fingertip, but recoils from the smell… and the cat licks his own ass.

      Second, I’m eating keto and 23:1 intermittent fasting, and throwing MCT oil (or butter) into the mix early in the day would raise my insulin level twice in the day rather than just once, thus screwing up my 23:1 fasting.

      Third, the only benefit from it that I got was feeling fuller (I note the mental clarity from fasting, but no BIGGER mental clarity from the MCT oil), and since I’m not having any problem with not eating (I just ride out the hunger waves and they pass), it’s extra expense with no visible benefit, and one visible drawback.

      Fasting today just because I feel like it, by the way. May decide to eat tomorrow evening.

      • Interesting Holly.

        I understand your reasoning.

        I guess that there must be some insulin response for a tablespoon of oil, even if it is minimal?

        Not sure if its offset though by higher ketosis levels?

        I have been having one meal a day during the week, but then on weekends just winging it.

        That hasn’t worked out as well as I hoped. I am finding it difficult to get the weight off. I am now thinking that the extra calories from the MCT oil, coupled with spiking my insulin at weekends may be sabotaging me.

        So I’ve changed it up this week!

        Am now on Day 4 of a Water / Black Coffee only fast. I’ve done a few fasts before, so am finding it pretty easy to be honest. Far simpler then cutting calories! Am going to do six days and then go back to one meal a day in the evening (LCHF), and try to stick to that on the weekends as well. I also plan on maybe skipping it on Mondays, so that would essentially be one 48 hour fast a week.

        Am reading Fungs book on your recommendation. He summarises the state of play nicely. Another one you might want to look at is this one from Martin Berkhan from Leangains.com (who Fung talks about in his book, but who has been doing it much longer), who was one of the first people to talk about the 16:8 method of fasting for Bodybuilders. He has a book coming out called ‘The LeanGains Method’ on 16 August, which promises to be one of the best researched books on intermittent fasting and strength training (which you may not be focused, on, but is likely to be a very interesting read, as Martin always researches stuff REALLY thoroughly. On Amazon here – (not an affiliate link I just happen to have got a lot from Martins blog over the years – https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G3GFLTX)

        I wondered how you planned in the longer fasts into your normal weeks? (Not the 5 day plus ones – The normal ones of longer than 23 hours, but say less than 3 days). Are you doing them on specific days? Or just as and when?

        Are you doing it randomly? ie Normally 23 hours, but occasional 48 hour or longer ones. Or something else?

        I do also find myself wondering how to eat when I actually get down to target weight?

        Have you given any thought to maintenance strategies to stay the same weight, but still get all the mental and health benefits you have now?

        I need to lose 37 pounds currently (as-of monday). So it will be a while! But just planning ahead!

        Have you thought about a maintenance strategy to stay the same weight?

  2. I’m enlightened, that’s for sure. Last week, I borrowed several books from the library, and from what I’ve read so far, you made the right call with the MCT oil. Well done, you two.

  3. So inspiring! My own experience with intermittent fasting has been that I can go for a long time without food, but any type of mental stress causes me to feel hungry and need food to stay on task. (This can be work stress, or even creative writing — though fun, I have enough left/right brain imbalance issues that writing can be super stressful.)

    So I’m very impressed that you can get through stressful periods while fasting!

  4. It is so inspiring to read of your success with this. I’ve been doing intermittent fasting off and on for awhile now, and have lost the 20 or so pounds I gained last year when I retired. That’s a dent in what I need to do. At my (our) age I was afraid of fasting until early this spring I had a stomachs bug and didn’t eat a thing for 2 and half days, and I was thoroughly empty. And didn’t hurt me a bit really. I’ve been doing days of 18-6, and 20-4. Meaning only eating in that 4-6 hr window, and mostly paleo. I’m pre diabetic. The bloat has gone out of my belly and I have ankles again. Hadn’t seen them for awhile. I bought dr Jung’s book and read it cover to cover Sunday. It is astonishing how wrong our established medical treatment for type 2 diabetes has been, as well as the general health of all of us. But I am encouraged beyond words to know that diabetes and its demons are not inevitable. There is a way to fight it and win. And it doesn’t cost a dime. Much of what was in the book I read about elsewhere, but it’s nice to have it all in one place, and explained thoroughly. I’m glad you had the courage to change your habits, and thankful to you for sharing your results. Kudos to your husband for his strong support.

  5. Yay.

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