Discussing the MOON & SUN series: The Ruby Key, The Silver Door, and The Emerald Sun

My most frequently asked question on THE MOON & SUN series is “When are you going to do the next book?”

So I’ll answer that one now. I’m doing it next.

When I come back to work after my break in December, I’m putting together the rest of the Create a World Clinic, and will use The Emerald Sun as part of my worldbuilding demo for that course.

THEN I’m doing the extension on my How To Write A Series course, and The Emerald Sun is going to be my demo for picking up a series after a break.

THEN, I’m going to finish the HTTS Walkthrough—and, you guessed it—doing the actual completion of the first draft of the novel is going to be the demo for THAT.

So by the end of 2013, the first draft of The Emerald Sun will be done. And I’ll get it into print as quickly as possible after that.

But if you have OTHER questions about the first two books, the series, or the upcoming The Emerald Sun, ask them here.

Cheerfully,
Holly Lisle

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Jennifer Gomez
Jennifer Gomez
1 year ago

Hi!
Jumping in a little late here. Since it’s 2021, will the Emerald Sun still be published? I understand, especially with the pandemic, that it might take even longer to publish.
That being said, since the original number of sequels were shortened from 7 to 3, when will we see Dan and Yarri get together?
My apologies if the question was too abrupt, if necessary, feel free to email me instead of replying here.

Jennifer Gomez
Jennifer Gomez
Reply to  Holly
1 year ago

Yeah sure! No pressure. Just wanted to know, curious. And um, didn’t know where to find the links you kindly posted (before), or how to check for updates. Sorry for any pressure-it was unintentional. Thank you for replying. I never wanted to convey any sense of entitlement. Like I said, the pandemic has complicated things for everyone. I don’t want you to burn out. Best of luck!

Jennifer Gomez
Jennifer Gomez
Reply to  Jennifer Gomez
1 year ago

Sorry, new at this. Just wanted to clarify that I didn’t know how to find because I was confused since there are multitudes of servers on this topic. I didn’t know which message board to check, since there’s a lot of them. And again, truly, really sorry for offending you.

Holly
Reply to  Jennifer Gomez
1 year ago

Hi, Jennifer. I wasn’t offended in the least. I’m very happy the folks who loved the first two books still want to read the third one, and I’m very hopeful that the five books I’m writing now will make that possible.

It’s simply tiring to keep answering the same questions in different threads, and I’m hoping that if I can get all the folks onto the same few, I won’t have to repeat myself so often.

Elle liane
Elle liane
5 years ago

Um it’s 2017 and I was just wondering if the Emerald Sun is still happening? Five years and there hasn’t been any news.

Elle liane
Elle liane
Reply to  Elle liane
5 years ago

Also, I am very sorry about your health problems, I didn’t mean to sound impatient or anything, I was just wondering if it was still planned.

Nat
Nat
Reply to  Holly
4 years ago

Since it’s already 2018 when is the book coming out? Do you have a scheduled date the it comes out? I can’t wait!

Amber
Amber
6 years ago

Amber again! Are you already working on your third book? No rush but i cant wait. BEST SERIES EVER!! hopefully it comes out ASAP.

taneisha
Reply to  Amber
5 years ago

Do you happen to know what time the ruby key takes place in.

taneisha
Reply to  Holly
5 years ago

thanks but can you give me some evidence because i am doing a book project and i need text evidence.

taneisha
Reply to  taneisha
5 years ago

not to be rude or anything because you are the author of the book so you probably know what your talking about.

taneisha
Reply to  Holly
5 years ago

ok thanks

Nicole
Nicole
6 years ago

When will the book be published? I can’t wait for more Genna and her friends! (especially Doyati 😉

Amber
Amber
6 years ago

i have just one question.
will you make the last book? yes or no. it would be absolutely wonderful if you did.

-Amber.

Amber
Amber
Reply to  Holly
6 years ago

OMG YESSSSSSS

Annabell
Annabell
6 years ago

So what is happening now with The Emerald Sun? You ended the contract with Scholastic in October 2014, and where does that leave us now? Pleeasee write the third book 🙁 please. I read the first book when I was in 5th grade. I’m now a freshman and college and wonder about these books often still! I need it… please.

Heidi
Heidi
8 years ago

Hi, this is the same Heidi from earlier comments.
Yes, it’s true, I’m still waiting for that third book. However, it disappoints me to know that there won’t be one. Despite Scholastic denying the book, I encourage you to write it anyways! I’m not sure what will become of it, but maybe Sun and Moon readers and I could get our hands on it in the future…

Holly Lisle
Admin
Reply to  Heidi
8 years ago

If I broke my contract in the manner you suggest, Scholastic would own the third book without having to pay me for it. So, no, I’m not going to do that.

brianne
brianne
8 years ago

i am soooo upset to hear about the way scholastic is treating you and this amazing moon and sun series. i think you should totally start a petition to get them to either buy the third book, or wave the non-compete clause. it just isnt fair…and i’m dying to know what happens next!!!

Holly Lisle
Admin
Reply to  brianne
8 years ago

Contracts have nothing to do with fair or unfair. If you sign them, you live and die by them. THIS is why I’m not signing any more of them, though.

Angela
Angela
8 years ago

I am hoping for an update on this topic. Have you made any more progress toward publishing the third book in the Moon and Sun trilogy? The last entries I am seeing says something about a possible ebook. Is it out there somewhere already?

Holly Lisle
Admin
Reply to  Angela
8 years ago

I have nothing but bad news in this regard. There’s a non-compete clause in my contract which means I CANNOT write the third book for anyone but Scholastic (including myself), and Scholastic isn’t interested.

So, no, there is no third book, and probably never will be.

Amanda
Amanda
Reply to  Holly Lisle
8 years ago

I loved the first two books an I am really sad holly can’t make a third. :*{

Benjamin
Benjamin
9 years ago

I loved the ruby key, and the silver door, Is there a third book, I’ve heard something about The emerald sun. I’m not sure, It really takes a bit to get me to read a book. Its hard to find one that catches my attention and makes me read more. These two did, and if there is a third, I need to know.

Ruchika
Ruchika
9 years ago

First of all I want to apologize for bothering you so mush. I just picked up the two books and went through them real quick. But you saw what I mean right, when I was reading the Ruby Key and the Silver Door the names and their Hindi meanings fascinated me and (creeped me out)
First of all Genna (to live) is the chosen one who will save humans and nightlings, and lead them to live a life of freedom.
Yihanni (“that means…”) if my memory is as good as I think then they were the village wise-women. Who told people about things and gave people answers and all.
Yarri (friendship) she becomes a true friend to both Dan and Genna, which also shows that nightlings and humans can coexist in harmony and peace.
Navan (Naven means ‘new’ or ‘fresh’) he is the first new character introduced in the Silver Door, and not only that he is also a new villain our main characters must face. He also signifies a new era of Sun-wizardry (in my opinion, you know, as he caught the moonroad and all)
Jagan (‘to awaken’ or ‘the awakening’) waking up Jagan also marked the wakening up of the Spire. This is one of the revolutionary changes Genna and Catri brought about, right.
(all these words are either from ancient-Hindi or street-slang-Hindi)
Last but not the least Holly (Holi is the festival of colors in India) kind of like how you filled the nightlings and your books with so much color. Like the explosion of a rainbow.
And to be fair Ruchika (shining, beautiful and desirable) unfortunately I do not possess any of these characteristics.
Now, I want you to go back and think when you were writing you novels, and then imagine how I must have felt while reading. Creepy, isn’t it? The symbolic meanings. I know you were an American writer, and to read your books made me wonder, if you were part Indian…
So, just for fun, ask yourself this, Am I somehow part-Indian? Because this can only come through deep knowledge of Hindi…  or some heavenly miracle and one hell of a coincidence.

Ruchika
Ruchika
Reply to  Holly
9 years ago

I know it a coincidence. I just thought it might interest you. 🙂

Ruchika
Ruchika
9 years ago

To be honest, the MOON & SUN would make a beautiful triology. That is if you manage to end the write book 3 better than the last two.(thats a challenge, becaust the last two were so good…)I like three-book series.
Holly, were you aware of the fact that in Hindi Yarri means ‘friendship’…?

Ruchika
Ruchika
Reply to  Holly
9 years ago

Well, in that case, you might be interested to know that in Hindi, Genna means ‘to live’ and Navan can also be referred to as Naven that means ‘fresh’ or ‘new’.

Sarah Hudson
9 years ago

Just got the MOON & SUN books from my local library, read them in two days, and came here to find out what’s happening with the series. I’m so excited for the third book! And, um, I also have a crush on the cat.

It looks like it’s a big club. We should get t-shirts.

Dirk Porsche
9 years ago

Hi, I’m a potential new reader.

This post: http://iamkellibeck.com/2013/05/14/author-spotlight-holly-lisle/ brought me here and I’m very interested. Unfortunately, the first books don’t seem to be available as eBooks. Any chance, that might change in the future?

Do I have to read the first books, to get into the story?

Regards
Dirk

Morgan & Hope
Morgan & Hope
9 years ago

We are reading Ruby Key, and love it. I, Morgan think Yarri is the best character. How many books will there be? Me, Hope I think that Genna by far is the best character.

Ellie
Ellie
9 years ago

Holly, My name is Ellie Maple. I have read Ruby Key and in the process of Silver Door. Ruby Key is better, by far. I hope Emerald Sun is even better! Knowing you, Silver Door will get better. Please Keep Writing! You are my #1 author!!!!!!

Genna
Genna
9 years ago

hi holly, I’m in the process of reading the ruby key. it is definitely a great book, im wondering, where did you get the idea for the ruby key, who and what are the characters based off of?

boingalongs
boingalongs
9 years ago

I love Holly’s books so much that I have been reading them foe six months strait! That is how much I love your books.

Morgan
Morgan
9 years ago

I think everyone has a reason for living. Holly’s is writing. Mine may be soccer, or some other thing that I do not know about. Holly, you should never stop writing! EVER! At least the Moon and Sun series. These are the best books I have read. Can you tell me your other kids book cause I totally want to read them! When I can read adult books, I will definitely read yours!

Michael
Michael
10 years ago

Following on: Others have asked about a movie and mentioned how much they like the covers by Joshua Middleton. I was trying to pin down what his style reminded me of, and, when viewing Katsushika Hokusai’s “36 views of Mt Fuji,” I realized that the colors Middleton uses are very much like those of Japanese woodblock prints.

The ideal would be an animated series of films, illustrated by Middleton!

Michael
Michael
10 years ago

Dear Ms. Lisle,

If you find that Moon & Sun: The Emerald Sky M&S:TES is popular, but not profitable, you could open up the world to fanfic. You mentioned above that you are using TES as part of the demo for your worldbuilding course. This means we fans of the series will see much of how the realms of Moon and Sun are created and be able to emulate the process. And fans of the cat could write about all his (mis)-adventures when he’s outside of the main plot.

My question about taandu magic is this: Flowers are supposedly good nightlings who drank taandu elixir. If they are so good, how did they tolerate Letrin’s evil rule for so long? Or the war against humans? Or the enslavement of their fellow nightlings?

Melanie Matthews
Melanie Matthews
10 years ago

My daughter loved The Ruby Key and so do I! Would it help if we as readers write to scholastic asking them to give your rights to the first 2 back? We are so looking forward to reading more from this world and would love to see it on the big screen as long as they stick strictly to your imagery from the books. This world seems even bigger and more wondrous than the world of Hogwarts from the Harry Potter series. Please put us down on your list for pre orders of book 3! We silk pray that you will be able to continue the series, that the series will take off far better than you are hoping for! Also would a pre order opportunity help you if we as readers could purchase in advance a copy to ship when it completes? So that you would already know you had them sold? I am site others would be just add interested in getting the third on order add well from some of the above posts!

Melanie Matthews
Melanie Matthews
Reply to  Melanie Matthews
10 years ago

I’m sorry my Swype function changed some words up there. Silk was supposed to read will, and site was supposed to read sure.

Melanie Matthews
Melanie Matthews
Reply to  Melanie Matthews
10 years ago

I’m sorry I found another, add is supposed to be as.

Melanie Matthews
Melanie Matthews
Reply to  Holly
10 years ago

Good, well that makes sense. We can hardly wait. Do you have any plans for your stories to possibly appear as movies in the future? Surely that could be profitable as well?

Yashaswi
Yashaswi
10 years ago

im glad that you are at last going for the third book…
i’ve beenlong waiting for that book.

Melanie Matthews
Melanie Matthews
Reply to  Yashaswi
10 years ago

Just for you Mrs. Lisle, I discovered my full email address was incorrect as well I corrected it I hope as I did get a confirmation email to manage subscriptions but to which it said I had none I will try again with post to see if it corrects but please if you wouldn’t publish this one. Arrrrgh these new fangled “smart” phones are frustrating!

Sofie Stevens
Sofie Stevens
10 years ago

Holly,

We were wondering what happened to all the nightlings. Only Yarri is in the silver door. Also, Banris,we know he is evil but, how is he related to Genna and Dan????????????

Heidi, Akane, Danielle
Heidi, Akane, Danielle
10 years ago

The audiomaerist was a big part of both books. In The Ruby Key, she gave Genna an ominous pinch, which had some unknown effect. What was the pinch, what did it do, and how does it work?

Reiana
Reiana
10 years ago

Holly, How can you stop writing?????? I was planning to read them all!! Don’t stop the moon and sun series. EVER!!!

Heidi
Heidi
Reply to  Reiana
10 years ago

I’ve been wondering as I read your books, how do you come up with such extravagant names, places, and other proper nouns. Is there a certain insperation that you’ve discovered?

Heidi
Heidi
10 years ago

I love your writing Holly! I’m so exited to interact with other fans and of course you, but I’ll keep in mind that you’re really busy.

Morgan
Morgan
Reply to  Heidi
9 years ago

Heidi, I think everyone on this site loves Holly’s writing and her stile! No one wants her to stop! We are all waiting for the Emerald Sun. We all want more books. One problem, the bookstores don’t sell 1,000,000,000 books!

Morgan
Morgan
Reply to  Morgan
9 years ago

Heidi, sorry if that was rude. I did not intend for it to be. You sound like a nice person and great writer and reader.

Danielle
Danielle
10 years ago

Our group is waiting for your third book – not so patiently!!
What happened to Yarri’s parents after Genna said her name to the bard in her dream? Where did Yarri’s parents go?

Danielle
Danielle
Reply to  Danielle
10 years ago

I wondered where they went because Yarri said they would go somewhere terrible.

Akane
Akane
10 years ago

How can Master Navan go on the moonroads, but no one else in the sun wizard colony even knew anything about moon magic? And if he was a sun wizard, how could he do moon magic?

Danielle
Danielle
10 years ago

We are enjoying your books. A few questions…
1. Who was Master Navan the whole time? While he was teaching and then with Banris?

Akane
Akane
10 years ago

Bubbles defeated Banris in The Ruby Key. How did these bubbles and their magic work? Are they sun magic or moon magic??

Heidi,Danielle,Akane
Heidi,Danielle,Akane
10 years ago

One Question… Where did Yarri’s parents go after Genna said her name to the bard in her dream?

Veronica
Veronica
10 years ago

I agree, the cat is quite a hilarious creature, but with all the plot twists and turns, it’s hard to keep up with the cat’s laughable comments.

Leo
Leo
10 years ago

In Silver Door, Doyati, Yarri and Danrith were sent out to different place to do various jobs for Master Navan. Genna and Catri remained at Arrienda. We feel that these characters were sent to different places so that to decrease their power. It seems to go along with the idea of divide and conquer.

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10 years ago

Me love your books HOLLY!!!!

Nanje
Nanje
10 years ago

Ruby Key
Silver Door
Emerald Sun
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Kimmy
Kimmy
Reply to  Nanje
10 years ago

Same here!! Can NOT wait!!

Bob
Bob
Reply to  Nanje
10 years ago

The next one is the bronze window. hahahaha

Shawna
10 years ago

Am I the only one with the thought… “the cat came back, he couldn’t stay away, the cat came back…” etc., going through my head? Mmmm. Tie up the trilogy’s story, if you must… but leave the world open, pretty please? That cat… he’s just something else.

And I can’t believe no one else is going World Clinic, World Clinic, she said she’s doing the World Clinic – NEXT!
And practically jumping up and down like I am. Because THAT is the one I’ve been waiting for. For years now. Since oh… let me look. At least August 2006, if not longer. I for sure remember that post, and the one from August 2007. LOL.

Grafton
Grafton
10 years ago

It’d be nice to have Joshua Middleton do the cover for it.

Grafton
Grafton
Reply to  Holly
10 years ago

Yeah. I’m pretty sure someone’s suggested something similar before, but once you get to the point where you’ll need a cover you could start a Kickstarter campaign. I’m sure there’s plenty of people who’d hate to see an incomplete cover set.

Jennifer
Jennifer
10 years ago

Yay! I’m so glad to hear the series will get it’s third book; I have loved the first two books.
And I’m glad I’m not the only person with a secret crush on the talking cat. 🙂

Kimmy
Kimmy
Reply to  Jennifer
10 years ago

I like the cat in all. He is funny. He calls people a idiot. A crush on him…???!!! Really??

Morgan
Morgan
Reply to  Kimmy
9 years ago

Kimmy, I totally agree! I mean, throughout the book, you debate if the cat is good…or…bad. If I was one character, I would be Yarri. Yarri is so adventurous, and skinny and so spunky.

D.D.
D.D.
Reply to  Jennifer
10 years ago

Take a peek at Lucy’s comment, Jennifer!!!

Johanna
Johanna
10 years ago

Will Emerald Sun be the conclusion of the series? Are you self-publishing this — did you get the rights back from Scholastic? Also, is it wrong that I kind of have a crush on the talking cat? 😉

sarah
sarah
Reply to  Holly
10 years ago

Yay! I have been looking for news on the third book for two years now! I have to say, I LOVE this series. It’s like nothing I’ve read before! You had me hooked from the first paragraph of the first book. And what an amazing heroine. I’m sooo glad your not ditching this.

And yes, everyone has a crush on the cat, including me :)(it’s hard not too, I had secretly hoped he might be Doyati in the first book)… Speaking of Doyati, what about the not so subtle hints of the growing romance between Genna and Doyati? PLEASE tell me there will be more of Doyati in the 3rd book. They’re just so cute together!!!!( I’m a hopeless romantic, so please don’t disapoint me!)

Anyways, I’ve already bought the first two books and am counting the very SECONDS till I can buy the third!

P.S. You rock!!!

Lucy
Lucy
Reply to  Johanna
10 years ago

The cat is not my fav. He is the funniest character in the books. But a crush on him…???!!!

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