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DearAuthor.Com Behaving Badly — 24 Comments

  1. You’re not the first person this has happened to, and I would imagine it’s only a matter of time before certain sensationalist column authors step on the wrong literary toes and find out that their idea of defamation doesn’t quite iron out the way they thought.

    I’m not sure if it’s the same everywhere, but on my state’s website the incident doesn’t even have to be written defamation, it can be hearsay. Too, if the slander/defamation revolves around a person’s livelyhood and not just their character, or if it causes potential damage to a person’s status in the community, they can face not only fines but up to 6 years in prison. That’s pretty serious.

  2. because if they don’t work as characters that could be in one of your books, then they’re not even very good at being people. 😛

  3. i had an idea. 🙂

    the next time someone makes you mad, just use your character building directions to see if they’re a well-constructed character. if they’re not, then they’re not worth your time. 😀

    if they are… then maybe they could be a good arch-nemesis?

  4. Hey Holly,

    If Ms. Little did not think she was participating in libel when she wrote her post, that snide and obviously venomous letter including her “retraction” certainly seemed purposefully damaging.
    The sadest thing about this whole situation are the others involved. The booksellers and potential readers who rather than searching out the whole truth, ate her grule and called it apple pie. People can be lazy and will believe anything for one (or more) of three reasons. Either they fear it is true. The want it to be true. Or they are unwilling to see whether or not it might be false.
    What makes it worse is that in defending yourself, which you have every right (if not the duty) to do, people will cling to a lie even more.
    I hope none of this ends up truly hurting your career. It is one I have enjoyed greatly and I have let many people know not only of your books and site, but of your character.
    The truth, although it is a wonderous thing, is often a burden for those who tell it.

  5. An apology is WORSE than a liability – it takes away your moral high ground. And it mean you can’t layer on the snarky comments about the other persons’ personal failings. Can’t be a victim either, when you apologize.

  6. A fascinating glimpse into the way some minds work. Thank you.

    One thing I truly cannot understand is how hard it is for people to apologize. A simple, “I’m sorry for the misunderstanding.” Have we become the kind of society where an apology is a liability?

  7. Someone on her site commented that Little is some sort of lawyer. If true, this is a thing of beauty that pays for all the rest of this crap in spades. On the one hand, her unprovoked and unjustified assault on me and my career is certainly costing me both goodwill and readers. On the other hand, though, I get to be the writer who was attacked by the lawyer who didn’t understand the difference between the words “bookSTORE” and “bookSELLER.”

    And even as the person on the receiving end of her shit, that’s just too funny.

  8. It is amazing the lengths that some “people” will go, to support a position with no facts to support that position. Then they use those lies and tell them often enough, believing that the lies will somehow become truth.

    I’m sorry that you have to put up with these imbeciles. Keep the faith and keep writing.

  9. Thank you, Diana! That’s exactly what I was thinking. It’s a sad commentary on the world today when a request for an apology is met by a barrage of defensive pseudo-lawyering.

    Sorry this all had to hit you during the holidays, Holly!

  10. You’re right, Jaye. The thing is some people have nothing better to do with their lives than to bash good people like Holly. They live off the misery they cause and the publicity they get from the comments of others (this one included, but it just had to be said). If people ignored their ignorance, they would just go away. The more comments they receive the happier they are. A sad excuse for a life really. They are the Al Qaeda of the blog world. They are never wrong. Their views are the only ones that matter, and they believe that if you don’t share them you’re just plain wrong and should be obliterated. They are spineless and hide behind the shield of a computer screen.

    Of course, this is just MY OPINION.

  11. How is it that a simply post on publishing industry methods result in legal threats?

    You’re right: DA.com misinterpreted your post by not reading it properly, and worse, paraphrasing until the results were totally wrong. Rather than admit a mistake, they resort to legal threats of the worse kind, as if they know more about the law than a long-published author would.

    Anyone who has a Blog, website or posts a comment is subject to the laws of libel and defamation just like any other media form. Care is needed whenever entering into the public arena.

    DA.com should grow up and grow a spine. Apologies never hurt anyone; and a little public ‘sorry’ now, might stop a larger mess of humiliation later.

  12. Dear Holly,

    I loved your original post about the dangers of the practice of selling to the net. I also loved Talyn, which is off topic, but whatever. I’m here. It was great.

    I was disappointed to see DA.com misinterpret your post, but I’m shocked to see this exchange. Talk about making a mountain out of a molehill! You asked for an apology, not a federal case! Libel and such is about damages.

    It has nothing to do with libel or defamation or the Supreme Court. It has to do with good old fashioned journalistic error. Newspapers print corrections all the time and there are no lawyers involved. A blog, like a newspaper, is a publication, and calls for corrections and retractions are NOT necessarily threatening lawsuits.

    Methinks they were jumping the gun a bit by calling out all this legalese — perhaps trying to make a case that no, they aren’t going to apologize, and no, don’t even think about taking it any farther because blah blah blah legalese. It’s as if someone tripped on the road outside my house, and instead of asking if they were all right, immediately measuring the setbacks from my property to see if I’m liable.

  13. Very few women mistake themselves for bookstores. These two somehow managed to, and have managed to piss off a number of other booksellers and a whole bunch of potential readers toward me for no reason at all.

    I figured if I carefully pointed out where I spoke ONLY about chain bookstores and NEVER EVEN MENTIOND chain booksellers, they’d realize they’d attacked me with no reason. But some people want to be victims, and will look for opportunities to claim they’ve been victimized.

    These two take that category to whole new, pathetic depths.

    I’m not interested in suing them or shutting down their site; I never was. I know that that’s the American way, but I think it’s disgusting. Can’t help but hope the next writer they tell lies about is nastier than I am, though.

  14. I don’t have much to add, because I’ve said it before, but I DO have a few points to bring up:

    1. THEY (the Ja(y)nes) are the ones that jumped to Supreme Court rulings and laws, not you. They also made the leap to legal action as well.

    2. They completely missed how they said you commented on chain SELLERS and not the chain STORES.

    3. I’d like someone to tell me, please, because it’s a dream of mine: How many books do I have to sell personally before I am classified as a bookstore? Or do I have to be as big as one too?

    Thank you.

  15. Your email was as well thought out as your post and as always, your writing in all forms continues to engage, inform and entertain me. 🙂

    As for the ‘literary’ chick – from the tone of her emails it certainly sounds like she’s skated too close to the lible/defamation line in the past and knows that she’s pretty darned close here as well.

    I’d never take a recommendation such as what is presented in her ‘apology’, especially if I’ve never read an author.

    But, if people like fantasy, suspense and romance your books fit the bill. She can b**ch all she wants but it won’t turn away the fans you have and the fans you have are the ones who create more fans.

    Bravo Holly! I know you don’t have time for this crap.

  16. It would be nice if she’d make up her mind, wouldn’t it? First she claims you have enough celebrity to make her libel-proof (a sketchy claim, methinks, since most authors don’t fall into the “celebrity” catagory..) and then slams you as being just the opposite.

    Sheesh. *shakes head* The sheer foolishness of people just… amazes me, some days.

  17. I find it insane how people misconstrue facts to fit there opinion.

    To say that chain stores use automated systems that don’t pick up on authors who are actually doing pretty darn good is one thing. To say that the possibility exists for an indie store to handsell books, keep track of the successful ones, and order more of those is another.

    But to make up stories and twist words makes me irate. I’m all about the details, and people need to get their facts straight.

    I know of a good little link to a fictious example of selling to the net, if anyone’s interested. Sometimes it helps people understand.

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