“Why Are You So Mean?”
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In light of the recent reader-generated digressions in comments to a previous post, that’s a fair question. It was asked to me privately by someone I like who was asking out of concern for me—out of fear that I was being too much myself on my weblog, and not enough the sort of person readers would expect me to be.

So I’ll answer from that angle—to the person who likes me and is afraid my honesty and bluntness are hurting me.

My writing diary/ weblog is not some carefully packaged promotional tool that I use to “build readership,” “market my books,” or any of the rest of that crap. It’s the place where I discuss writing and other things that are important to me.

Let me say that again. It matters.

This is where I discuss writing and other things that are important to me.

I’m going to take a moment to explain why that matters, and I’m going to break it down by section, so you will see where I’m coming from, and understand why, on occasion, I am not gentle or “nice” with someone who comments here.

First, writing.

Aside from my love for my family and friends, writing is at the core of how I make my life meaningful to myself.

Words matter. Words and what they mean and how you relate to them change your thinking, your actions, your philosophy, your existence.

I don’t write for you. I write for me. I write to create the stories I want to read, the stories that I cannot find on bookshelves, the stories that are about more than just a relationship, or just an adventure. I want to read stories written from a coherent, well-thought-out viewpoint, where the worldbuilding has been created and not copied, where the characters are doing things important to them, where the underlying theme is about something important.

I don’t want to read about puppets of destiny becoming king of the world, and I don’t want to read about helpless, stupid women being rescued from their lives by good-looking men with no brains. Especially, I don’t want to read about those women and those men if them hooking up is the whole story. What are they about? What is their story about? If neither is about anything I consider valuable, I don’t need them.

So I am writing stories that I personally consider important, and I am fortunate that what I love is what enough other people want to read that I have been able to make a career of writing.

If you like my books, that’s fantastic. If you don’t, there are countless other books by countless other writers where you’ll be able to find what you do like. Or, if you’re a lot like me, there won’t be any, or many, and you end up writing the books you wanted to read and couldn’t find anywhere else.

More on writing—this time how I connect writing with other people who also love writing.

My life is joyful and exuberant because I am doing what I love. There is enough of the missionary left over from my childhood that I want to be able to share the best of what I have discovered about writing and how to be good at it with people who also love to write. And who are willing to do the work themselves once pointed in the right direction.

I’m not big on handholding. If you want to be a writer, you have to be willing to do the work, and there’s a lot of work involved.

If you’re willing to work, though, I’ll bend over backwards to show you exactly what I’ve done, what has worked for me and what has failed for me, because I know that even though a writing life is financially hard sometimes, (especially if it’s your actual income), it’s a great life in which you wake up every day glad to be alive—and if you want to do that, I think you should be able to. And I’ll make what I’ve learned available to you in a variety of forms so that you can create your own best life.

I still won’t read what you’ve written, (unless I ask you for a sample, as in the Writer Crash Tests), and I still am not available for one-on-one mentoring at any price because I have my writing, I have my writing courses, and I have my family—and that’s a full plate.

Other things that matter to me, and that I from time to time discuss here.

At the core of who I am is the knowledge that our lives matter to others whether we choose to make them matter to ourselves or not. If you choose to make your life matter by making it valuable to you and acting for your own personal highest good, other people as well as you will benefit. If you think your life is of no value, then you will suffer, the people who love you will suffer, because you will act in self-destructive or outwardly destructive ways. If you choose to force your own values on others, destruction will again result.

From this basis, I hold sacred both freedom of religion and political freedom, because each of those freedoms allows every individual to pursue his own highest good without oppression.

I detest both religion and politics because both demand a “buy-in”—the revocation of personal reason either through a requirement for faith in the unprovable, or in agreement with a party platform “for the greater good”—and both religions and governments are institutions of oppression that coerce behavior from the unwilling through overt force (voluntary income tax?) or the threat of force (a.k.a. “You’re gonna burn in Hell for that one, Sparkie.”)

So I speak here about things I see going on in the world around me from this viewpoint. I riff on the idiocy of the global warming theory, I point out drifts I see from freedom toward oppression in such legal issues as the right to die movement or abortion, I point out the intellectual dishonesty of a women’s movement that has drifted from equal pay for equal work to declaring a woman who murdered her children a “victim.” And I note the inexorable creep of political parties and special interest groups to create division among people, encouraging everyone to pick sides against those different from themselves, playing the politics of race, religion, and special interest as a classic Roman “divide and conquer” ploy that, no matter the party in power, always leaves more power in the hands of the government, and less in the hands of the people.

You are encouraged not to trust those different from you, because they are out to get you. The guys on the other side of your personal issues, whatever they may be, are encouraged to do the same. Meanwhile, the government steps in and says, “Here, let us protect you from them.” And you lose your rights in return for safety from something that never threatened you in the first place.

And all of that comes down to this.

This is my space. It is an extension of my living room, where you are an invited guest. This is, however, my place to say what I think, and I won’t pretend to be someone I’m not in order to appease some small god of marketing who thinks my sales would be better if I were plastic and fake.

And in my place, I have a few rules.

First and foremost, freedom of speech belongs to the one who owns the press, and this place is mine. I reserve the right to delete any comment for any reason. Most I will let stand, but I have no intention of letting troublemakers and jerks run rampant across my comments, any more than I would tolerate such behavior in my home.

Next, I am as kind to my guests as they are to me.

You want to discuss things, I’ll discuss them as I have the time. You have questions, ditto. I will not seek an argument or pick a fight.

If you seek to debate, I may decide to play if you’re interesting and if I have time. I like to debate. I like to test out my philosophy against an opponent who holds an opinion different than mine, simply to see if I have it right, or if my opinion needs revision.

If I think you’re trying to pick a fight, I’ll either delete your post (if you’re simply obnoxious), or I’ll debate you, (if you’re obnoxious but interesting). I will not use against you any tools of words that you do not use against me first, so if you maintain a level of polite discourse, I will do the same.

If you lead with sanctimony, condescension, or insult, or if you are not willing to back up your statements with facts, I may decide it would be more fun to sharpen my logic on you and use you as an exercise in debate and an example of what not to do here rather than just delete you, or ban you. If you make a real jackass of yourself, then I’ll ban you.

If that makes me mean, okay.

I never claimed to be nice. I can be kind, but I detest niceness—it is pretending to be someone you aren’t in order to gain social approval. I’m not looking for anyone else’s approval. I already have my own.


Comments

“Why Are You So Mean?” — 28 Comments

  1. I applaud your honesty and thank you for taking the time to explain yourself. As others have said in this discussion, it actually improved my opinion of you. It’s just too bad that you’re so wrong about global warming. Oh, well – nobody’s perfect.

  2. I don’t always agree with your views (think New England liberal), but you long ago earned my respect, mainly because you are not only true to your beliefs and honest about stating them, but because you also explain where you’re coming from, and are highly competent at logical arguments. I also get the very strong impression that if someone had a good enough argument and evidence, that you would be willing to re-evaluate your views – that in fact, the reason you hold your views so strongly is that you *have* examined them carefully, and found them to be either provably true, or the best explanation for currently available evidence.

    I like and respect that, as well as enjoying the books you write!

  3. “I don’t write for you. I write for me.”

    Yup.
    Ditto.

    And good for you to say what you want to say, and not pander to “Oh noes! It might offend someone!”
    Same thing here.
    If you don’t like it, don’t read it.
    Like you, my opinion is my own. I’m entitled to have one, and if it differs from anyone else’s (which it will), then that’s what makes me an individual.
    If my opinion offends someone, then so be it. Because if all of us had the same opinion, there would be no discussion, no discovery, no progress, no… life. Now where’s the fun in that? :)

  4. THIS is why you are a hero to so many people. Or at least to me.

    THANK YOU for being strong, strong-minded, strong-willed, and passionate. THANK YOU for giving a damn about your life and the lives of others. And THANK YOU for having a thick skin and being unafraid to fight.

  5. I think you have something with the ‘this is my space’ comment. People seem to forget that. A blog is essentially a personal weblog, that happens to be on display for others to read, should they want to, and to comment on, should they want to. Some people use their blogs exactly this way, while others choose to use it to share ideas and stratgies, and others use is to promote themselves. I think as long as you make it clear what you intention is, readers need to respect that, or read elsewhere.

  6. I have been enjoying you and your work for several years now. I agree with the commentators before me. What makes you awesome as a writer also makes you awesome as a person… honesty. Whether I agree with your opinion on a matter really doesn’t matter. I choose to disagree a agreeably whenever possible. What matters is your passion to be true and faithful to yourself which in turn makes your writing ring passionate and true those who have had the pleasure of reading you in your words.

    I thank you for having the courage to be you, and as others have said, this bearing of your soul endears you to me all the more. And this is why I continue to tell others that you are the best teacher, coach, and human being I have encountered online. I am so grateful.

    Remember when PC meant “Personal Computer”? And, it still holds true that a person who does not stand for something, will most likely fall for anything.

    Let me leave you with this as it used to be my email signature:

    “Blessed is the person who can laugh at themselves for they will never cease to be amused, and I am amused most of the time.”

  7. Good grief, if I didn’t occasionally tick people off with saying (and doing) exactly as I believe, then I wouldn’t be being very true to myself… because chances are, those people are the ones that I’m the least likely to agree with their opinions, the least likely to respect their words or actions, and the least likely to give a damn what they think.

    It may not make me any friends, but I’d rather live my life by truth then spend all my babying others and toeing the line… and the more I make someone mad, it’s a darn good thermometer, in general, of just how dishonest/unethical their behavior really is.

  8. I think you have pretty well summed up the sorry state of public discourse. A robot-like adherance to agenda is required, instead of an intellectual exchange of ideas. The order of the day is to personally demonize anyone who disagrees with an agenda. God forbid that someone who doesn’t share my views might have an opposing idea worth considering, or vice versa.

    I’ll take an honest thought or idea over P.C. b.s. any day.

  9. Holly, being honest, especially if it pertains to something that others wish to avoid thinking about or dealing with, can get you socked in the nose. Been there. Have watched a family fall apart over it. And then watched as those who were the avoiders denied that the family had been destroyed.

    It’s weird. Honesty is easy. Lies, secrets, keeping tales straight, “not getting involved,” and other dishonest practices are much harder. If you are alive, you are involved. End of story. You are much better off knowing where you stand than letting others decide for you.

    What really got to me were the number of “I think you meant this” type of comments that people made (which seemed to set off the debates). Why would anyone think you meant anything other than what you had written? Why would you have written it if you didn’t mean it?

    Maybe I am wrong here, and correct me if I am, but shouldn’t one always write and speak what they mean? Is there any point in speaking or writing that which you do not mean?

  10. You have been an encouragement for the last several years. Both your writing advice and your opinions, even the ones I don’t agree with. Don’t change. I wouldn’t like that person.

    Remember, if two people totally agree, one of them is not thinking.

    “To thine own self be true.” (Shakespeare ?)

  11. Is is true that people who find honesty harsh are usually dishonest themselves? Wow, Holly, I know there was a reason why I gravitated toward your writing blog, and not just to brush up on my writing skills. I don’t always agree with everything you write, but so what. Finding people who are genuinely 100% honest about who they are and forward is very rare, and I value that above all else, especially a difference of opinion.

  12. I know I lose some readers with my approach. I think the ones I keep will actually like my work.

    And, djmills—I don’t, and won’t, stage drama for hits. Any discussions I have with folks here will be real. Really me, really them.

    I had a moratorium on religious and political discussion on FM because I have strong opinions on both subjects, feel obligated to comment when someone says something that is patently not true, and provably so…and because A) I don’t like either subject, B) I don’t particularly want to talk about either subject, C) I hate flames, and D) I don’t feel any missionary zeal to convert people to my way of thinking.

    So I simply made those subjects off-limits. It made for a better neighborhood.

    I could do the same thing here, but this is private, not public space, and there are times when I think politics and religion need to be aired out.

  13. As others have said, thank you for posting this. I believe that you have the right to say what you wish–that is our freedom and one of the greatest freedoms of this country we enjoy. I agree with you. You are not ‘mean’ by my way of thinking. You are honest, a trait which has lost much of its value nowadays. It is easier to appease than it is to stand up and speak truth. I applaud your efforts to stick to your guns and your beliefs. Thank you for doing that, too.

  14. This touched me, Holly. Everyone has (within reason, of course) a right to be real. This is your place to be the real you – Holly Lisle, sharp and insightful and funny, writer of books, dreamer who won’t give in – and make clear your views. If somebody respectfully opposes them, that’s okay. However, if somebody attacks, I don’t think you have to be meek and mild so as not to offend. After all, your online diary isn’t about being absolutely politically correct; it’s about being real. We don’t want to see an imitation Holly Lisle who sounds like an automated recording – cordial, but fake. We want to see the real you.

    The real you is who you’re being here. And that’s who we get to know and respect and love, and whose books we call our aunts in the U. S. to search the stores for, and read to our little sisters every night (okay, maybe it’s just me who does that). That’s who, like Sharon K, I look up to and want to be like.

    I wonder if you’ve heard of Anna Valerious (the nom-de-plume of the blogger, not the character in the movie)? Sometimes, you sound somewhat like her.

    It’s better to be hated for your character than be loved for the lack of it. And you’ll be proud. It’s who you are.

    [Apologies for the extra-long comment! - Ann]

  15. Holly, I thought your first response to Joe was good and accurate and the right thing to do. Then as I read the responses I began to believe that it was a set up, that maybe Joe was someone you knew and you both had the argument/debate set up, to attract hits on your site. I thought you were learning more about managing web sites. I now apologise for thinking that.

    Now, I realise you learnt about life the way I did, by living life. I realised yesterday that this swine flu is manmade but will be controlled by a drug company. It will bring the power shift back to drug companies now it is shifting off oil and onto climate control. And banks are not in a very good position to take back control so drug companies are making their move.

    So, you say what you want, when you want on your blog. And keep writing and keep teaching. I will be here to pick up any crumbs of knowledge I can. Thank you. :)

  16. It’s not so much that you are ‘mean’, it’s that you jump on anyone who has a conflicting opinion, and you react much more strongly than the person who commented in the first place. I read your response to Joe, and you really went all out on someone who was just expressing their opinion. *shrug* But you’ve said why you do that, and that’s your prerogative – it’s your blog.

  17. At the core of who I am is the knowledge that our lives matter to others whether we choose to make them matter to ourselves or not. If you choose to make your life matter by making it valuable to you and acting for your own personal highest good, other people as well as you will benefit. If you think your life is of no value, then you will suffer, the people who love you will suffer, because you will act in self-destructive or outwardly destructive ways.

    Thank you SO MUCH for writing that.

    I don’t think you’re mean. You’re truthful to yourself and others. That quality is hard to find. It’s taken as “mean” because the truth always hurts.

    Thank you, Holly Lisle, for being you.

  18. I wouldn’t call it “mean” so much as “refreshing”. I applaud and appreciate your refreshing views; I aspire to be as honest about myself as you are, and I mean that in the least-sappy way possible. Thank you for being so comfortable with the rest of us to be “mean”!

  19. I find your honesty and bluntness refreshing. I often completely disagree with you, but I always appreciate knowing your REAL opinion. I have a tremendous amount of respect for you and think you are inspirational.

  20. I follow your blog quite a lot and while I don’t always agree with what you say, I respect your right and will to say it. I actually really admire your attitude about, not just blog posting, but writing as well. It has continually helped me in my own work. :)

    In short, I want to be just like you when I grow up.

  21. I think it’s brave of you to be who you really are and not hide your views in fear that it will hurt your book sales or something. I think there are a lot of authors who are afraid to do that. And considering the amount of time and energy you’re putting into giving us courses and e-books and video lessons, I think you have the right to be any damn way you want. Cheers.

  22. Excellent. I admire your ability to put into words what many of us feel. If you alienate some people … then so be it. I know that, for myself, I can admire someone- say a politician that is true to his beliefs and doesn’t change what he says based on how it will affect his re-election prospects. I many not agree with him- but I can respect his refusing to back down from his principals. I think that an author has to tell her story as she would like to have read- to do otherwise is pandering to the masses and I would think- make the writing less of a joy and more of a job.

  23. Of course speaking your mind is going to alienate a few people (that woman who pulped your books over some petty issue springs to mind here), but I’m sure that there is an equal amount of people who appreciate reading a strong opinion, even though it may not always be soothing.

  24. Thanks for posting that, Holly – I definitely see where you’re coming from and agree with your expressed viewpoints.

  25. Wow. That was the best personal philosophy blog I have read and I am even a greater fan of yours now. Perhaps because I hold most of the same views. I have created nearly the same philosophy about self & life via reading Ayn Rand, Gandhi’s Biography, Ben Franklin’s Biography, Aristotle, Socrates, Kipling & Sir Richard Burton. Thank you for writing. :)

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