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	<title>Comments on: Time Out: Offering Advice and &#8220;Write A Book With Me&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Terri Rains</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terri Rains</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there&#039;s a time and place for telling people &quot;you should do this&quot;, but those cases are few and far between and usually relate to technical matters and other rule/convention-based activities.  Otherwise, I&#039;m with Holly and the rest of you...  Don&#039;t try to be everyone&#039;s (or anyone&#039;s) writing boss.  It&#039;s not good for them and it doesn&#039;t do much for you, either!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there&#8217;s a time and place for telling people &#8220;you should do this&#8221;, but those cases are few and far between and usually relate to technical matters and other rule/convention-based activities.  Otherwise, I&#8217;m with Holly and the rest of you&#8230;  Don&#8217;t try to be everyone&#8217;s (or anyone&#8217;s) writing boss.  It&#8217;s not good for them and it doesn&#8217;t do much for you, either!</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://hollylisle.com/time-out-offering-advice-and-write-a-book-with-me/comment-page-1/#comment-10639</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think everyone wants to think that they know best on any subject.  Hence all the one-up-manship on &quot;Having Babies,&quot; &quot;Raising Teenagers,&quot; &quot;Managing Husbands,&quot; etc. etc. etc. there is just no end to it.  I haven&#039;t published a darned thing and have no advice for anyone on that subject, however, when I was in labor with my second child......just kidding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think everyone wants to think that they know best on any subject.  Hence all the one-up-manship on &#8220;Having Babies,&#8221; &#8220;Raising Teenagers,&#8221; &#8220;Managing Husbands,&#8221; etc. etc. etc. there is just no end to it.  I haven&#8217;t published a darned thing and have no advice for anyone on that subject, however, when I was in labor with my second child&#8230;&#8230;just kidding.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly Lisle</title>
		<link>http://hollylisle.com/time-out-offering-advice-and-write-a-book-with-me/comment-page-1/#comment-10638</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly Lisle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:D  (Quotes are okay, in context.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://hollylisle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />   (Quotes are okay, in context.)</p>
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		<title>By: Belle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Belle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They probably do get unsolicited advice, just like parents get parenting advice from people with no children, and business owners get told how to run their business.  ... heavy sigh ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They probably do get unsolicited advice, just like parents get parenting advice from people with no children, and business owners get told how to run their business.  &#8230; heavy sigh &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ieva melgalve &#187; on critiques</title>
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		<dc:creator>ieva melgalve &#187; on critiques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 10:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is vaguely prompted by this excellent post at Holly Lisle&#8217;s, concerning people giving and receiving advice on her site. Now, first, it [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is vaguely prompted by this excellent post at Holly Lisle&#8217;s, concerning people giving and receiving advice on her site. Now, first, it [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Gerhi Janse van Vuuren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerhi Janse van Vuuren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not know enough about writing to feel I can tell anybody how they should do it. But I have taught art for many years and in every class or workshop you will come across students who have been taught by teachers who gave them shoulds and musts. It is also possible that some students are drawn to take general statements and turn them into laws. What basically happens is that the law is removed from context.

In art a law would sound like this &quot;I&#039;ve been told you should not use black for shadows.&quot; The real context is &quot;IF you are painting in the style and manner of Impressionist artists and want to create paintings with the same look and color resonance it might be a good idea to do what they did and NOT use black for shadows but rather blue or other complimentary colors.&quot; Those are two very different statements.

Now let me say it in terms of writing. &quot;You must write a 1000 words every day.&quot; or &quot;If you are the type of writer who works best by taking small (or large, we are all different) steps every day in order to complete a project it might be a good idea to develop the habit of writing a minimum of 1000 words every day because it seems to work for many writers but you may also be the kind of person that works for two weeks like a blubbering lunatic doing 20 000 words a day though there does not seem to be many people advocating that method.&quot;

In other words. What Holly said (and I quote ;-)  )

If you’re offering advice, phrase it as: “I had a similar problem, I took the following steps to fix it, you might find this useful.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know enough about writing to feel I can tell anybody how they should do it. But I have taught art for many years and in every class or workshop you will come across students who have been taught by teachers who gave them shoulds and musts. It is also possible that some students are drawn to take general statements and turn them into laws. What basically happens is that the law is removed from context.</p>
<p>In art a law would sound like this &#8220;I&#8217;ve been told you should not use black for shadows.&#8221; The real context is &#8220;IF you are painting in the style and manner of Impressionist artists and want to create paintings with the same look and color resonance it might be a good idea to do what they did and NOT use black for shadows but rather blue or other complimentary colors.&#8221; Those are two very different statements.</p>
<p>Now let me say it in terms of writing. &#8220;You must write a 1000 words every day.&#8221; or &#8220;If you are the type of writer who works best by taking small (or large, we are all different) steps every day in order to complete a project it might be a good idea to develop the habit of writing a minimum of 1000 words every day because it seems to work for many writers but you may also be the kind of person that works for two weeks like a blubbering lunatic doing 20 000 words a day though there does not seem to be many people advocating that method.&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words. What Holly said (and I quote <img src='http://hollylisle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />   )</p>
<p>If you’re offering advice, phrase it as: “I had a similar problem, I took the following steps to fix it, you might find this useful.”</p>
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		<title>By: Sari</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 07:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Sarah here. 

HtTS is something I would love to do, and eventually will (when I have recovered from the financial cripling of vet bills, root canal, insurance, getting the car fixed and other expenditures, not of which were anything good like a new pair of shoes :(...). In the meantime the small titbits of advice that are offered by Holly are getting me by until I can invest in her immense wealth of knowledge :).

Thanks again Holly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Sarah here. </p>
<p>HtTS is something I would love to do, and eventually will (when I have recovered from the financial cripling of vet bills, root canal, insurance, getting the car fixed and other expenditures, not of which were anything good like a new pair of shoes <img src='http://hollylisle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8230;). In the meantime the small titbits of advice that are offered by Holly are getting me by until I can invest in her immense wealth of knowledge <img src='http://hollylisle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>Thanks again Holly</p>
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		<title>By: laurel</title>
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		<dc:creator>laurel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 06:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m starting tonight with a minimum of 500 words a day.

 I keep returning to reread the lessons and feel I need to start writing now.  I posted my sentence in the writing discussion board and hope I find my way into what you are all doing.

Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m starting tonight with a minimum of 500 words a day.</p>
<p> I keep returning to reread the lessons and feel I need to start writing now.  I posted my sentence in the writing discussion board and hope I find my way into what you are all doing.</p>
<p>Thank you</p>
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		<title>By: Holly Lisle</title>
		<link>http://hollylisle.com/time-out-offering-advice-and-write-a-book-with-me/comment-page-1/#comment-10632</link>
		<dc:creator>Holly Lisle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL!

Ninja writing... now there&#039;s a concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL!</p>
<p>Ninja writing&#8230; now there&#8217;s a concept.</p>
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		<title>By: Holly Lisle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holly Lisle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 03:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah.  Had some of the same experiences myself.  On occasion from folks who weren&#039;t even writers.  (I wonder if plumbers get the same amount of advice from the folks looking over their shoulders as writers do.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah.  Had some of the same experiences myself.  On occasion from folks who weren&#8217;t even writers.  (I wonder if plumbers get the same amount of advice from the folks looking over their shoulders as writers do.)</p>
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