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	<description>read with hunger, write with joy, live with passion</description>
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		<title>By: Chassit</title>
		<link>http://hollylisle.com/and-after-a-furor-by-chain-booksellers/comment-page-1/#comment-5036</link>
		<dc:creator>Chassit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holly, don&#039;t let those guys get you down.  Some people just, er...have lapses in judgement.  Heh heh, I&#039;m trying to more polite (getting a jump on my New Years Resolutions).

Because I have no Indie bookstores in my area (the ONLY bookstore we have is Walmart) I will start buying from one of your online indie bookstores instead.

Remember that some people are just stupid (drat breaking the Resolutions before the New Year is even here) and we can&#039;t fix stupid people.  I hear scientists are working on vaccinations to prevent idiotic descisions, but until then we will have to deal with them.

Have a good Christmas, Holly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holly, don&#8217;t let those guys get you down.  Some people just, er&#8230;have lapses in judgement.  Heh heh, I&#8217;m trying to more polite (getting a jump on my New Years Resolutions).</p>
<p>Because I have no Indie bookstores in my area (the ONLY bookstore we have is Walmart) I will start buying from one of your online indie bookstores instead.</p>
<p>Remember that some people are just stupid (drat breaking the Resolutions before the New Year is even here) and we can&#8217;t fix stupid people.  I hear scientists are working on vaccinations to prevent idiotic descisions, but until then we will have to deal with them.</p>
<p>Have a good Christmas, Holly.</p>
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		<title>By: BookLover</title>
		<link>http://hollylisle.com/and-after-a-furor-by-chain-booksellers/comment-page-1/#comment-5035</link>
		<dc:creator>BookLover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 19:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This morning, at the bottom of page 275 of Talyn (second reading in six months), I closed the book to think about some things.  That happens to me freqently reading a Holly Lisle fantasy.  It happened to me in the first reading, and also happened to me reading The Secret Texts, and reading Hunting the Corrigan&#039;s Blood.)

My stream of conciousness this morning went something like &quot;Gods this is so beautiful; how can it not be a best seller; this should be required reading in high school -- no make that college lit., no how about college poli. sci; wait it&#039;s psych; no, religion; I&#039;ll never live long enough to write this powerfully (blue shot of admiration mixed with a tinge of green envy); won&#039;t someone tell me why Talyn hasn&#039;t won an award, make that several awards; who do I know that should read this book? everyone. no one -- people don&#039;t want to take the time to think, be challenged, my RR (religious right) friends would scour me for giving it to them (the sex), my other friends aren&#039;t readers (won&#039;t someone please turn off the abomination of desolation -- television?); I sent a copy to the best novice writer I know (in Australia) and begged the closest book store (sorry: a B&amp;N) to get more and not spined out (I bought the second of three on Nov. 28th)....

Probably I shouldn&#039;t post this, as my morning thoughts are very ADHD and not for public consumption, but I&#039;m going to go with impulsiveness and do it anyway -- lectoris caveat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This morning, at the bottom of page 275 of Talyn (second reading in six months), I closed the book to think about some things.  That happens to me freqently reading a Holly Lisle fantasy.  It happened to me in the first reading, and also happened to me reading The Secret Texts, and reading Hunting the Corrigan&#8217;s Blood.)</p>
<p>My stream of conciousness this morning went something like &#8220;Gods this is so beautiful; how can it not be a best seller; this should be required reading in high school &#8212; no make that college lit., no how about college poli. sci; wait it&#8217;s psych; no, religion; I&#8217;ll never live long enough to write this powerfully (blue shot of admiration mixed with a tinge of green envy); won&#8217;t someone tell me why Talyn hasn&#8217;t won an award, make that several awards; who do I know that should read this book? everyone. no one &#8212; people don&#8217;t want to take the time to think, be challenged, my RR (religious right) friends would scour me for giving it to them (the sex), my other friends aren&#8217;t readers (won&#8217;t someone please turn off the abomination of desolation &#8212; television?); I sent a copy to the best novice writer I know (in Australia) and begged the closest book store (sorry: a B&amp;N) to get more and not spined out (I bought the second of three on Nov. 28th)&#8230;.</p>
<p>Probably I shouldn&#8217;t post this, as my morning thoughts are very ADHD and not for public consumption, but I&#8217;m going to go with impulsiveness and do it anyway &#8212; lectoris caveat.</p>
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		<title>By: khazell1</title>
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		<dc:creator>khazell1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the &quot;inciting&quot; post: &lt;i&gt;To understand why chain bookstores are the Villians of Bookselling, first you have to understand how books are sold right. So weâ€™ll look at the Heroes of Bookselling, independent (or indie) bookstore owners and booksellers.&lt;/i&gt; 

I guess if I read something that described my employer as a villain and my employer&#039;s competition as heroes, I might get a bit defensive and wonder what was being implied about my own moral standing.  That doesn&#039;t strike me as sloppy reading so much as a perhaps unanticipated side-effect of rhetoric intended to deservedly praise the hardwork of indies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the &#8220;inciting&#8221; post: <i>To understand why chain bookstores are the Villians of Bookselling, first you have to understand how books are sold right. So weâ€™ll look at the Heroes of Bookselling, independent (or indie) bookstore owners and booksellers.</i> </p>
<p>I guess if I read something that described my employer as a villain and my employer&#8217;s competition as heroes, I might get a bit defensive and wonder what was being implied about my own moral standing.  That doesn&#8217;t strike me as sloppy reading so much as a perhaps unanticipated side-effect of rhetoric intended to deservedly praise the hardwork of indies.</p>
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		<title>By: arrvee</title>
		<link>http://hollylisle.com/and-after-a-furor-by-chain-booksellers/comment-page-1/#comment-5033</link>
		<dc:creator>arrvee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 14:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like you need some sensitivity training, Holly. We just can&#039;t allow you to speak your mind and possibly damage somebody&#039;s self-esteem. After all, that&#039;s what diversity is all about.

Wait a minute. Illogical. Please explain. Norman, co-ordinate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like you need some sensitivity training, Holly. We just can&#8217;t allow you to speak your mind and possibly damage somebody&#8217;s self-esteem. After all, that&#8217;s what diversity is all about.</p>
<p>Wait a minute. Illogical. Please explain. Norman, co-ordinate.</p>
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		<title>By: scottbryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>scottbryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 13:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have some eggnog Hol. 

And don&#039;t let the bastards get you down.

Have a good holiday and a Merry Christmas! 

If you&#039;d like some snow I can ship some in a picnic cooler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have some eggnog Hol. </p>
<p>And don&#8217;t let the bastards get you down.</p>
<p>Have a good holiday and a Merry Christmas! </p>
<p>If you&#8217;d like some snow I can ship some in a picnic cooler.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz</title>
		<link>http://hollylisle.com/and-after-a-furor-by-chain-booksellers/comment-page-1/#comment-5031</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2006 00:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alis Rasmussen &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; Kate Elliott.  She was able to come out about that a while back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alis Rasmussen <i>is</i> Kate Elliott.  She was able to come out about that a while back.</p>
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		<title>By: gerrilynn</title>
		<link>http://hollylisle.com/and-after-a-furor-by-chain-booksellers/comment-page-1/#comment-5030</link>
		<dc:creator>gerrilynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 23:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, ignore the internet comments. Sorry. Misread that. At the same time, the Barry Hughart stuff still stands. His was a contract, not a sales issue. and the Alis Rasmussen thing--I&#039;d be worried about how much of a push she got since she published a trilogy in one year. Not to mention--what was the market like for those sorts of books at that time? Sometimes the market is just down on one particular sub-genre. 

To say it&#039;s the net that makes or breaks an author is to simplify the issue beyond recognition. The market and the quality of work plays a bigger part. If the book doesn&#039;t make word-of-mouth, it&#039;ll eventually fade. And word-of-mouth will make or break it, not the net.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, ignore the internet comments. Sorry. Misread that. At the same time, the Barry Hughart stuff still stands. His was a contract, not a sales issue. and the Alis Rasmussen thing&#8211;I&#8217;d be worried about how much of a push she got since she published a trilogy in one year. Not to mention&#8211;what was the market like for those sorts of books at that time? Sometimes the market is just down on one particular sub-genre. </p>
<p>To say it&#8217;s the net that makes or breaks an author is to simplify the issue beyond recognition. The market and the quality of work plays a bigger part. If the book doesn&#8217;t make word-of-mouth, it&#8217;ll eventually fade. And word-of-mouth will make or break it, not the net.</p>
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		<title>By: gerrilynn</title>
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		<dc:creator>gerrilynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 22:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Barry Hughart stopped writing because of contract issues, IIRC. He wanted more money, the publisher didn&#039;t want to pay, and he just stopped writing because of something in the contract. Not to mention he stopped publishing long, long before there was an amazon.com or a bn.com... 

Alis Rasmussen published in 1988, and then published a trilogy right in 1990. I don&#039;t see anything else under that name. Did she switch to a pen name? If so, which one?
Either way, the books still pre-date amazon.com or bn.com, or any other massive internet book ordering site.

I do see a lot of thank-yous to Alis Rasmussen, though, which indicates she&#039;s still talking to people like Kate Elliot, Catherine Asaro, and Katherine Kerr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Barry Hughart stopped writing because of contract issues, IIRC. He wanted more money, the publisher didn&#8217;t want to pay, and he just stopped writing because of something in the contract. Not to mention he stopped publishing long, long before there was an amazon.com or a bn.com&#8230; </p>
<p>Alis Rasmussen published in 1988, and then published a trilogy right in 1990. I don&#8217;t see anything else under that name. Did she switch to a pen name? If so, which one?<br />
Either way, the books still pre-date amazon.com or bn.com, or any other massive internet book ordering site.</p>
<p>I do see a lot of thank-yous to Alis Rasmussen, though, which indicates she&#8217;s still talking to people like Kate Elliot, Catherine Asaro, and Katherine Kerr.</p>
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		<title>By: peggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>peggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2006 22:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holly - you might want to reread and update that last paragraph.  It seems to me that &quot;... that does not make what I said true...&quot; should be UNtrue, and also  &quot;... does magically transform...&quot; should be does NOT magically transform.

Either that, or I *really* need to double check my reading comprehension, and you can feel free to call me an idiot or worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holly &#8211; you might want to reread and update that last paragraph.  It seems to me that &#8220;&#8230; that does not make what I said true&#8230;&#8221; should be UNtrue, and also  &#8220;&#8230; does magically transform&#8230;&#8221; should be does NOT magically transform.</p>
<p>Either that, or I *really* need to double check my reading comprehension, and you can feel free to call me an idiot or worse.</p>
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